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Old 12-06-2005, 12:33 AM
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This is a thread that was started in our old BlissWeddings.com forums by maroki13 on 6/09/05.

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posted by maroki13

I have recently started researching photography prices and I am having MAJOR sticker shock. What kinds of photography packages were you guys able to get? The cheapest ones that I have found don't include what I would want, mostly the hours of photography and the number of venues they will photograph. I want pictures both at my ceremony and my reception (different places) and I can't believe how much money it would cost! Can I negotiate to get rid of things I don't want in wedding packages or should I suck it up and start to realize I'm going to pay a lot for photography?

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posted by bebe0315

This is my photography package:

We can offer you 7-hour package for $1799 that will include

-7 hour coverage (includes 1.5hour for getting ready of Bride with bridesmades and Groom with groomsmen, 0.5 hour for the formal family pictures before the ceremony, 30 min for the Ceremony, 1 hour for Bride&Groom pictures after the ceremony and 3.5 hours for the reception. Or you can spend 1 hour for getting ready and 4 hours for the reception- it is your choice how you want to spend the time)

-2 photographers to take pictures from different angles

-350 proofs 4x6

-2 prints 8x10 (Color, BW, Sepia or Spotcolor)

-10 prints 5x7 (Color, BW, Sepia or Spotcolor)

-CD with all high-resolution digital images retouched and enhanced with copyright release

- Personal Web album with all pictures.

Originally, the package was more prints and fewer hours, but I traded in the prints for another hour. Since I get the negatives as a part of my package, I will be doing a lot of editing and printing myself. I will probably also do my own album since I don't like the traditional wedding albums. I am not sure how the prices are in your area, but this was a AWESOME price for what I am getting compared to all the others I am looking at.

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posted by maroki13

That package is AMAZING for that price. I have been finding even just basic packages for close to $2000! I'll have to keep looking, and FH knows a photographer that he was going to get in touch with and see if he does weddings, he took pictures of their band for publicity, so maybe something like that could work out.

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posted by NovemberGal

I have a package similar to bebe, but unlimited hours and locations (the photographer does only one wedding a day, and devotes whatever time, etc. you need). However, I don't expect it to be more than 7 hours! We get 350 4x6 proofs and all the photos on digital CD as well (it's digital to begin with, no negatives). He works with an assistant. He's actually worked with my theater group before and I knew him and was comfortable with him, so I was willing to splurge--the photography is probably my #1 important thing for the day, besides actually ending up married! He was $2800. Which is actually reasonable for this area anyway! Especially for his quality, which is fabulous.

We probably won't purchase an album, either.

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posted by aug05bride

My package includes 6 hours of photography - unlimited locations but it's all in one place so that part didn't matter. We get ALL of the photos taken in a 4x6; pay per piece for the larger pics we want; all pictures are digital so we'll have the proofs via CD within one week of the wedding; after we approve them (and the guy's pictures are GORGEOUS) they'll be online for our family to order and pay for whichever pictures they want. He works with his wife. Total cost $1150 which includes tax & tip.

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posted by CupieJen

ours was the exact same as Aug's...except we paid $2300 and we don't get the CD with the photos until 1 year after the wedding. Sucks, but the quality of her work was totally worth it. I looked at about a thousand photographers before deciding on her and it was a hard decision becuase she was twice as much as we had budgeted for photography....but no regrets!!!

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posted by JennBride06

It is really expensive but I think it is worth it. The photographer was one of my top priorities. For $2800, I am getting 10 hours, all the photos in a preview album, 4 enlarged photos, a professional album, and all the negatives. My photographer will add other items for more money if we wanted.

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posted by syringa

Maroki - Whether you can negotiate a better price depends on where you live and the time of year of the wedding. If you live in an area where many weddings occur and yours is during the busy season, the photographers know that if you don't want them, someone else will, so there is no reason to negotiate. Remember that after the wedding all you will have left are your memories and your photos, so don't skimp on them or you may regret it later.

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posted by 080605bride

We chose to only have the professional photographer while getting ready and at the ceremony. My package is for 3 hours. it cost $250.00 and includes 120 4X6 pics in a small album, 1 8X10, 4 5X7's and an option to purchase the negatives. For the reception, we will be putting a camera on each table.

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posted by feb-bride

080605bride - You might want to rethink the cameras on the tables during the reception if these are the only reception pictures you will have. My cousin did the exact same thing because she was trying to save money. Out of 12 disposable cameras, she got MAYBE 25 usable pictures. The rest were crap.

What you might want to do instead is ask a few TRUSTED friends with cameras to take pictures at the reception. You would provide them with camera film, and give each friend one portion of the reception to take pictures (e.g., toasting, cake cutting, first dances, bouquet/garter toss, etc.).

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posted by 080605bride

I never thought of that. I will probably do that instead. Thanks!

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posted by feb-bride

Glad I could help.

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posted by syringa

I would definitely rethink your plans for the reception photos. Even a friend or two with a good 35 mm camera or a digital one won't get the quality of pictures that a photographer will. However, their photos will be better than what you can get with disposable cameras. You will definitely want photos of the cake cutting and toasts and possibly of the first dances as well. If you have friends take photos, ask several of them to do so and be sure that they are people that you are sure know how to take a good picture (no heads in the background or other things to clutter the pictures).

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posted by doodlebug1981

Hey what do you all think about the price for this package?
Package #1: $800

• Six hours of photographic coverage (approx. 250 images)
• 4” x 6” prints in designer box or proof album—up to 100 prints (color, b/w, or both)
• Complete set of full resolution image files on CD

I can spend $200 more for the next package and get an engagement portrait session (includes one 8” x 10” and four 5” x 7” prints)

Is this reasonable?

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posted by Lizbet

It sounds good to me.

When it comes to the engagement session, I think it's worth it. My FH and I didn't have any really good pics of the two of us before. Also, we are using the included package prints as our parent gifts for the wedding. Very handy for us. Now all I have to do is find some nice frames.

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posted by bebe0315

That is a VERY good deal! Especially since the full res files are included - you can edit and print those as you like.
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posted by Irisheen

From my recent experience - please do the trial/engagement shoot!!! We did one, (asdescribed in makeup/MOH issues) and it was horrid - bad makeup, which was obviously not the photographer's fault but I'm sooo glad I saw that ahead of time, and we just didn't click (bad pun) with the photographer. Then we had another trial/engagement shoot with a different photographer and it went much better - we actually look like ourselves, and happy, which is what I want on the wedding day. The photographer we're going with is amateur, so she's very reasonable. The package costs $900 (incl.tax - I live in Canada so that actually make a difference!) and includes the engagement shoot (about 200 photos on cd; she just uploaded a few to the website); 6 hours on the wedding day; 100 4x6 prints; 10 8x10 prints; 25 5x7 prints; and a cd with all the photos on it (very high resolution) so we can print them at photo stores as we wish later, and we can own all the photos. Our photographer's not as formal as some, but I wanted a more photojournalistic style. So, if you can afford it, I would HIGHLY recommend getting the engagement package too - just to make sure you have someone you'll be happy with.

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posted by doodlebug1981

The photographer that I am talking to is not an amateur but she has just graduated from Grad. school and has only done one wedding by her self. I was hoping to get more prints but I would own the pics. so I guess it doesn't cost too much to go and do it my self.
Did you think that 200 images will be enough to capture your day? I was worried that I'd want more, or is it plenty?

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posted by syringa

Two hundred images is more than enough if that is the number of good ones that you get. Most photographers take 200 or more to get about 125 good ones. Someone will invariably have their eyes closed or someone will walk by in the background, making a portion of the photos unacceptable. Those shouldn't be included on your finished CD or in your final proofs.

I second the thought that it is a good idea to do an engagement session with the photographer. The personality of the photographer is very important, as is their photography style. You may not be able to see the person in action at a wedding before yours to observe their style, however. The one thing that is important is that the photographer not draw attention to himself/herself and away from you. They can get quality photos without being intrusive. I talked to a videographer a few days ago who had just filmed a wedding where the photographer actually walked down the aisle backwards IN FRONT OF the bride as she and her father entered. He also kept his large light shades in place in the church sanctuary during the ceremony. They would pop brightly every time he took a picture. He totally took over without the bride and groom realizing that he would do so. He is no longer allowed to photograph at that church because of his insensitivity. If your photographer does something that you feel is intrusive, be sure to tell them. They might say that they are doing their job, but there are ways to do it tactfully.

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posted by mrsyarwood2b

I found my photographer on Craig's list. She had done several weddings, but was just really starting to build her business as a Professional Photographer.

Our package was $575.00 which included 5 hours of coverage, one photographer, 4X6 prints of all the images and possession of all the digital images. I thought this was really reasonable.

Also, I LOVED my table cameras at the reception! The pictures on these were great... and I loved getting some of the pictures back right away so I could start reliving the experience immediately after the wedding.

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posted by baconsmom

Remember also to look in odd places. You may be able to get a pro photog from your local newspaper - they might be willing to do a wedding on the weekend, and since it's a side business, I'm sure they'd be cheaper.

I'm going to troll the local community college for photog students. I heard of one girl who got the forensic crime-scene photographer from her local police department to do pix for her - the guy like having live subjects! - and it was much cheaper.

I would try to stay away from any one billing themselves as a "wedding" photographer. In my experience, anytime the word "wedding" is attached to a service, the price goes waaaayyyyyy up.

Good luck!

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posted by syringa

I must disagree with some of Baconsmom's comments. Not anyone can photograph a wedding and do it well. I see many commercial photographers who want to do weddings on the side. There is a big difference between shooting inanimate objects on a table and shooting groups of people. For you to get good quality photos, the photographer needs to understand posing, lighting, and all of the emotional and other variables that go into working with largr groups of people.

The one thing that I hear from former brides is that if they could change one thing about their weddings, they would have chosen a better photographer. Two of my children have expressed those feelings. One hired a high school photography teacher and the other hired their college photography teacher. Both were married at a time of year that required everything to be done indoors. Neither photographer owned the necessary light shades and other equipment that a commercial wedding photographer has. Consequently, the photos are dark and faces are not well defined.

The high school photographer had his film developed somewhere that definitely wasn't a commercial lab. Now, over 10 years later, the photos have all turned yellow. My daughter has tried in vain to find a way to restore them. She has the negatives but no one will make reprints for her because the photographer, who retired and moved, didn't give her a written copyright release. Bottom line, be sure that you see the photographer's portfolio before hiring them and be sure that it includes wedding pictures.

Also, if your photographer uses a digital camera and they are printing your photos themselves rather than having a commercial lab do it, be sure that they are not using an ink jet printer. The ink life is approximately 15 years. You won't want to be disappointed a few years down the road.

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posted by NovemberGal

In addition to making sure you find someone who can shoot a wedding well (whether they call themselves wedding photogs or not--syringa is correct in her points, but it is possible to find someone who isn't a professional wedding photographer who can do it well--just be sure to ask lots of questions and look at lots of their photos!) you want to have a person you connect with well, personality-wise. This person will be spending most of the time following you around pretty closely, and if you don't like them, or they have some irritating little habit, or whatever, you're not going to be happy.

The photography was my #1 important thing for the day (after getting married!) and I'm also kind of shy and hate having my pic taken, so I wanted to be sure I found someone I was comfortable with and who could draw me out some and not make me so self-concious. Got him, too, definitely worth a splurge to me.

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posted by baconsmom

I should have added that pictures aren't important to me, so I'm willing to go for lesser quality for a cheaper price. (I don't photograph well. Ever. In any light, in any pose, doesn't matter.) We're also not having a videographer, so that's not an element we need to worry about rolling into the package.

Long way to say - if pix aren't at the top of your list, my shortcuts are pretty decent. If pix are, try traditional wedding photogs or fashion photogs.

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posted by 555Ann555

We'll be spending close to £2000 in total for our photographs. It's a huge chunk of our budget, but it is very important to me. This is one of those things that I do not want to regret saving money on!

The package we've chosen hasn't got a time limit as such but they'll be there till after our first dance. We'll have 2 photographers, because it works so well that way!

Ann

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posted by ljeagle

Just seen this forum I thought I was getting aperty good deal but I guess its where u are also.
wedding and reception
150 4x6 proofs in an album
CD and copyright release of all proofs
…..$1,400.00

She will follow us around all day while we are getting hair and makeup done. She did a wedding I was in and her pictures where like no other I had seen. Plus all others that was this price wouldn't give me copy rights. They wanted like $500 more for copyright.
Plus my aunt, my mother and my sister and my self all have Rebel Gll so they will be running around taken pictures at the reception...

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posted by wedbyjean

Just a side note here -
Regarding wedding photos (and videos), think of the 'keepsake factor'. How often are we going to look at our own wedding photos? Maybe not often. But how about our children and grandchildren? Wouldn't they love to have some wonderful photos & videos of mom/dad, grandma/grandpa's wedding day?

If there were photos or a video of your parents' or grandparents' wedding day, wouldn't you want them?

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posted by sparklesweetie

My photographer comes with the chapel we have, and he only charges $175. I keep the negatives, and he does an hour before the ceremony, the ceremony (duh), and an hour after. He'll take any pictures I want, and knows the place well and knows where the good scenes are. However, this does leave me in a little bit of a bind for the reception, but I will most likely have it videotaped (even if it is a camera on a tripod in the corner) and/or assign someone to take pictures for me. Or I was also thinking of hitting the community college for some photography students for the reception/video. Sometimes I take good pics, sometimes not. FH is worried about them, he hates getting pics taken and doesn't like the way certain parts of him look. So pictures are higher on my list than his. But they're still there.

Smile like you just had it

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posted by syringa

Sparklesweetie, will the photographer work overtime for an hourly fee to get the important reception events, such as cake cutting, toasts, and first dances? If you plan your schedule, you can do those things fairly early in the reception without giving the impression of rushing things. Then, you could have a friend take candids throughout the reception and get the bouquet and garter toss, which don't usually yield much in the way of photos anyway.

If you place a camera on a tripod, be sure to have someone check it for angle after the wedding party is in place or at the rehearsal. One of my sons asked a friend to video his wedding and we have "wonderful" shots of the back of one of the bridesmaids but not much of the bride and groom.

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posted by sparklesweetie

Syngria, the photographer might, but I was told that he didn't do receptions anymore b/c of time limitations (sometimes they have up to three weddings a day). So, I think it'll be ok if I get a student photographer, or I may be able to hit up some family connections and get one. And I think that I am going to assign a few people to take candids that I trust with the camera.

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posted by UCF_bride

i got really lucky....after I found out that the photographer I was originally looking at was booked, I got another guy who agreed on unlimited time (3-10pm), unlimited pictures, lots of 4x5s (?? I think that's the right size) and a free bridal portrait sitting w/ 4 larger prints. All for 1284! It was too good to be true. Oh, and did i mention I get a CD of all the negatives?

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posted by JennPaz

If you want to take a chance you can always go to your local university and talk to the photography majors. You can find some raw talent for cheap prices.

My friends are ultra talented and offered to do our wedding for the cost of the film and developing. We get a copy of every picture and the printing isn't as much since they aren't printing them themselves.
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i hope this isn't inappropriate but I am a new wedding photographer, i have been a family photographer for several years and after helping with my sis-in-laws wedding I thought it would be fun to add it to my business. However, until you have done several weddings it is hard to get more business. I have taken several added courses on wedding photography over the past several months so I feel perfectly confident that I can do a great job. So I am offering a "special" for anyone who will let me do their wedding, bridal and/or engagement pictures. I think my prices are very good and I know my quality is excellent! I will also offer to anyone who is willing to be my first wedding an alacart selection with an hourly fee. I live in Houston, TX and am willing to travel within a certain radius, so if you are interested in seeing my work and packages I would love to talk with you. I have studied photography through the New York Institute of Photography and look forward to start capturing the beautiful memories that are made at weddings. You can email me directly at stephayneg@Hotmail.com

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