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Old 02-05-2006, 09:43 PM
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Default RSVPS/No Shows/Extra Guests

This is a thread that was started in our old BlissWeddings.com forums by bebe0315 on 04/19/2005.

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posted by bebe0315

Hey guess what? I found yet another thing to obsess over!

Okay so all of this RSVP/guest list talk stuff is starting to make me nervous. We FINALLY finalized our final final final guest list on Saturday. We are at our max (130.) I keep hearing these stories of people showing up with extra guests or children. We are having a 'no kids' wedding (other than the 4 in the WP) and we will have printed on our cards 'Adult reception' so that there will hopefully be no confusion. But holy smokes, if people bring their kids anyway... one of my cousins have 5 kids, 2 other cousins have 3 each. I also hear all these horror stories of people saying they are coming and then don't show with no notice. I know that general guidelines say to expect 20% to decline, but I am wondering what actual figures are from actual brides. How many 'extra' people showed up, how many people didn't show. What do you do if you are to capacity and extra people show up, and there simply isn't any room?

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posted by roseprincess

hmmm, I think we had probably 10 people who didn't show -- I never went back over the list to try and figure it out... maybe it was a few more? A friend told me recently that she had 75 RSVPs for her wedding but 80 people showed up and she got charged per person for each extra guest.

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posted by TheaterDiva1

I didn't have any extra "add-ons." Then again, I invited children and "& Guests" so I wouldn't have to worry about it.

However, I did have one couple, who originally declined, call a few days before and said their circumstances changed, so they were able to come after all. Another woman (DH's friend) asked to bring her daughter (originally not invited because we didn't really know her, but DH told her to bring her anyway). We were finalizing everything w/ the reception place the next day, so we were able to go some last-minute shuffling with the seating chart).

That friend and daughter wound up not coming anyway, along with a couple of other people.

-Maggie

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posted by JennBride06

I just got sick to my stomach… I know that my sister had some trouble with people that didn't show up so I just asked her what the situation was. I must say… I am shocked!!! She had a few people show up that weren't invited (these were not guests or children) and about 30-40 people didn't show up that responded. Don't we have enough to worry about ?!?

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posted by hermom

Take a deep breath ladies. First off, I think you will do a bit better because your wedding is on the smaller side. Usually smaller weddings have a better turnout because the guests are truly closer to you, than if you had 300-400 guests. My daughter had 70 guests attend, I think we invited about 85.
We only had about 9 that did not send the RSVP's back, so we called them. And we were relentless until we reached them and not their machines. We did not have any no shows! We did have 2 extra guests - my daughter and her husband did not invite cousins unless they were younger and still living at home. When his aunt and uncle showed (they properly RSVP'd for 3) they brought the oldest daughter and her boyfriend. My daughter was whiter than her dress! I spoke to her new Mother in law because it was her brother who brought the uninvited guests. Sorry, but there was NO extra china or even seats! We found a couple of chairs, but we didn't have dishes for them. I did not feel badly about it and neither did her mother in law. She handled it discreetly and it was over. A very minor hiccup in the entire wonderful day. I was obsessing over paying for a boatload of meals that people didn't show up for. Didn't happen to us. With a smaller group, you'll probably do just fine.

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posted by syringa

No shows were a bit issue this past year and in significant numbers. At one wedding, 170 responded but barely 100 came. At another wedding two weeks later, 90 responded and 50 came. In both cases, the brides said that the ones who didn't show were primarily work associates who had RSVPed for themselves and a spouse. The spouse probably begged off that day so neither one came. Usually, the problem is the extras who come uninvited rather than no-shows.

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posted by wynelle

With a formal sit-down dinner, it is a bit more important to have exact numbers, and it is better to have a few less rather than a few more. Many caterers charge a surcharge when more guests than anticipated show up.

Next- this is tricky- the 130 shouldn't be just the guests- that has to include the bride and groom and wedding party and the photographer and the DJ and the band, the minister. (depending on the time of the wedding, you might indeed be expected to provide a meal for them.) A friend's daughter had a guest list of 175, which just exactly fit the ballroom. But with the Bride, groom, 10 attendants, two flower girls and the band and the photographer and the videographer- there were twenty people too many.

For the children issue, only address the invitations to those invited. Second, the term "Adult Reception" is a faux pas which doesn't work, because no one knows what constitutes an adult. Is it 12, 14, 16, 18? And surely that doesn't mean little Porgy, because he is the second cousin of the groom's childhood friend. The best thing to do is have the two mothers spread the word of mouth thing to any relatives who might even be thinking - to heck with it- even have children.

Be vigorous with follow-up of the RSVPs. Don't "B" list any invites, just because you receive two or three negative responses. You are going to need unexpected expansion room

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posted by NovemberGal

We're having our reception at a restaurant, and we're having a DJ. The place has special lower pricing for vendor meals (DJ, photographer, etc) and doesn't count them in our "guest list" total. The wedding party still counts of course...when we first made our list we forgot to count ourselves.

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posted by bebe0315

Thanks all - definitely some good informatin to have. Wow hermom, I totally though 130 was a big wedding! lol Shows how much I know... And wynelle, thanks for all the info/insight/ideas. You always point out a bunch of stuff I hadn't thought of/considered!

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posted by Lilianevii

We jsut sent out invitations today. We went without RSVP cards since at no point are we beng charged per head. But I had a dream last night that we had so many people show up that there was no room in the church. We sent out 175 invites and the church holds about 200.

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posted by hermom

Bebe - I think your wedding is a really lovely size - not too small. I should have mentioned that along with my daughter who had the 70 person guest list, I have a stepdaughter getting married next month and her guest list is......are you ready for this??????............FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE!!!!!!! So I found your 130 to be a lovely size - not tiny, not mammoth. I swear that kid must have just opened the phone book.

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posted by bebe0315

465??? Holy smokes! Oh man, there is no way! The 130 on our list are all people we see or at least talk to on a regular basis (with the exception of family members who live out of state). I don't think I even know 465 people, unless I just went ahead and invited everyone I have EVER known in the history of my life, then maybe. LOL! Good luck with that one, hermom! Maybe you will get lucky and her bio mom will be mostly be helping out with that one...

OMG - I just mentioned to my co-worker that your step-daughter is having 465, and she said that her twin sisters sister-in-laws wedding was 7 hundred and something. Dear Lord...

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posted by SuzyBride

LOL That is close to mine!!
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posted by hermom

I'm going to have drum up the strength in my little fingers to tell the drama of my stepdaughter's wedding. I got into it a bit last fall/winter, but it is going worse than I thought it would. I'll try to put some thoughts together on that.
We aren't very involved in her wedding - her choice. This is not a slam on other young brides, but I can tell you that this one is 18, is inviting anyone whose name she can remember, sent her invites out (I made them and they were very nice) with registry cards AND no stamp on the RSVP envelope, oh yeah, and one more thing....and I swear on my mom's grave this is true - my 18 yo stepdaughter has bubblegum flavored lip gloss on her Target gift registry! Yeah, I'll have to work on a post for that one - it's a major soap opera.
Anyway - 130 sounds like a very nice sensible guest list.

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posted by feb-bride

I don't even think my husband and I combined KNOW 465 people! I've met that many people in my LIFETIME, but I don't know nearly that many people now. If I'd invited our ENTIRE family and all of our friends, we still would have been under 300 people for the both of us combined.

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posted by hermom

They are both very active in a "mega church" and are inviting anyone they have said Hi to on Sunday morning. I could never in a million years come up with that many people - that I could name - to invite. I tried explaining to her that it would take over 2 hours if she spoke to each guest for 20 seconds. Got me no where.

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posted by NovemberGal

Holy moly. I guess I'll stop stressing now that the 100-120 person wedding my FH and I wanted got blown out by the mothers to a 180-person guest list. 465 is more people than were in my entire middle & high schools (okay, so they were small. still.)

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posted by feb-bride

hermom - This marriage sounds doomed.

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posted by hermom

We think so too.
I have a HUGE 2 part post in The Lounge with all the sordid details.

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posted by syringa

If you think 465 is bad, I just came back from judging senior projects for students at a local high school. Two of the girls did their project on wedding planning. One helped her sister plan her wedding last August with a guest list of 840!!! Both the bride and groom and their families are very religious and they invited everyone from the groom's home church, about 2 hours away, as well as from the bride's church. I asked how many came and she said about 400. The reception was held in the back yard of the grandparent's home. Then, the next day, they had a reception at the groom's church. Those poor people received both a wedding invitation and a reception invitation. No wonder most didn't attend the wedding. That seemed absurd to me, but apparently their families don't think anything about inviting absolutely everyone they know or have ever known.

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posted by hermom

I can't imagine having 400 people at my home at one time! I don't own enough toilet paper to cover a party like that!

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posted by Lizbet

LOL!!! That cracks me up, hermom!

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posted by TheaterDiva1

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With a formal sit-down dinner, it is a bit more important to have exact numbers, and it is better to have a few less rather than a few more. Many caterers charge a surcharge when more guests than anticipated show up.

Next- this is tricky- the 130 shouldn't be just the guests- that has to include the bride and groom and wedding party and the photographer and the DJ and the band, the minister. (depending on the time of the wedding, you might indeed be expected to provide a meal for them.)

We did our guest list on Excel, so BP members were already counted. However we almost forgot to count ourselves!!!

The place where we had the wedding asks for a guarantee of 60 adults. They also charge half for children and vendors. After all the RSVP's were in, with 2 children/vendors = 1 adult, we had less than 60 anyway!

Also, our place is more flexible with number of meals because people could choose between three types of entres (beef/chicken/fish), and they didn't choose until after they sat down, so the place couldn't know how many orders of each to expect (having people check off their real choice on the response card wasn't an option - DH and I have enough trouble deciding on dinner the same day, so how can we expect people to decide two months in advance what to have?)

-Maggie

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posted by e-star

Well I am not too worried about extra guests coming - most of our guests are out of town so it's not like they will decide to bring their daughter and her boyfriend last minute.

I am more worried about people flaking out and not showing up even after RSVP's saying they would. At the last wedding I went to, there were about 15 people who didn't show and I felt bad for my friends, the bridal couple. I knew it was costing them $200 per person (this was in New York) and that $3000 could have paid for their honeymoon! I'm really annoyed with one of the no-showers who is a mutual friend - she swore to me a week before the wedding that she was coming and when I spoke to her afterwards, she was a bit sheepish as she had no excuse.

I will be inviting this no-show friend to my own wedding but am worried she will pull the same trick with me. Since most of my friends are from out of town, I am holding my bridal shower a few days before the wedding. Is it ok to have my MOH ask the shower invitees for their hotel info.? I figure this would tell me if people are actually coming, like my flaky friend. I'd rather not waste $400 of food if her and her husband won't be there-I could sure the money for my honeymoon instead!

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posted by bebe0315

I guess I am more worried about extra people than no-shows. I mean, no-shows will bum me out a but, but it won't cause any actual problems or awkwardness. As a couple of people mentioned, the folks we are inviting are all very close to us, so we do expect high attendance. It is a formal sit-down dinner, not a buffet, so if a bunch of extra people show up, we may not be able to accomodate. Last year my cousin and his wife showed up at my sisters wedding with their 5 children (who were not invited), and there literally wasn't anywhere for them to sit. The site coordinator had to drag another table in and get it set up right as the reception was starting, while everyone stood there watching them try to find a place to squeeze them in. Fortunately there was enough extra food even though it was a sit-down dinner, but man it was awkward. I know some people on other threads have said things like 'what's a couple of extra people, just squeeze them in' but it's not always that easy! If you are to capacity, and there is no room, there just isn't any room! Our reception room does have a gorgeous attached patio that will be ours for the reception, but I would hate to have to seat some 'extra' guests outside! I guess it would be their own fault for bringing a bunch of extra people, but I would still feel really bad about having to seat a guest, invited or not, separately from the rest of the guests! I guess there is no sense worrying about that unless it happens. (Fingers crossed that it doesn't happen!)

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posted by TheaterDiva1

A few extra people wouldn't have made a difference price-wise (we're already paying for 60, so SOMEONE had better eat those dinners).

I'd be more conderned about seating - I had turned in a seating chart with 8/10 people at each table. If an extra person had just shown up and sat down, then someone at that table may not have a place to sit.

-Maggie

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posted by munchkin

That's one of my nightmares (someone showing up with too many people). Unfortunately there's not a way to say "get out, you weren't invited."
Though that sounds like fun in some moods.

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posted by bebe0315

If that happens, I will just pull the sword out of the croquembouche and chase them out!!!

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posted by munchkin

ahahaha I forgot about that croquembouche. I mentioned it to my FH and he just looked at me as if I was insane. What can I say, hacking at a pastry with a sword sounds like fun.

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posted by feb-bride

You guys slay me!

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posted by bebe0315

With a sword, feb? (guffaw...) Okay yeah that was corny, but I just had to - the set up was perfect!
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posted by feb-bride

You know, bebe, that's exactly what I was thinking (the whole sword thing). I was actually chuckling to myself last night when I was thinking about someone grabbing the sword out of the croquembouche and chasing off the "non-RSVP" and "uninvited" guests.

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posted by hermom

Never fear ladies. I am in the Army and I have friends with tanks!!!! Not only can we protect and defend the constitution, we can protect and defend your receptions from unwanted guests. I wonder if there is a future in this as my retirement job?

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posted by feb-bride

hermom - Wedding Bouncer

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posted by bebe0315

You're hired!!!

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posted by hermom

Feb-bride - I love my new title!

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posted by munchkin

don't worry bebe, as soon as she said we slayed her I was going to ask the same thing about the sword.
And hermom, I would hire you to be my wedding bouncer. Have any plans for Sept 8 2007?

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posted by hermom

I'm free that day! My fee is a slice of wedding cake, if you please. Wedding cake is one of my downfalls. My daughter's was sooooooo good last February. Unfortunately the guests thought so too and I didn't get much for leftovers.
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