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Old 02-04-2006, 07:05 AM
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Default Rude Not To Have Open Bar?

This is a thread that was started in our old BlissWeddings.com forums by Tiff on 05/04/2004.

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posted by Tiff

Is it terribly rude to not have an open bar? Neither my fiance or I want one in the least (due to cost & personal reasons), but we're getting a lot of flack about it. One friend told me that it would be like inviting someone to your house, & asking them to buy drinks from you. But if you were inviting a friend to your house for a very nice dinner, they usually wouldn't drink like a fish, either. What's your call?

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posted by wynelle

Its not rude to not have an open bar. It is rude to have a cash bar. If you want to hold down costs, then it is perfectly appropriate to limit the alcohol served (ie to wine and beer) or to even have a non-alcoholic reception. If someone can't go 4 hours without a drink, then they may have a problem.

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posted by feb-bride

If you don't want to serve unlimited liquor, you can have a non-alcoholic reception, but I think it's in poor taste to have a cash bar at a reception. IMO, it IS like inviting people to your house and expecting them to pay for their beverages.

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posted by SkyeCPHT

We're having a non-alcoholic reception, the main reason being we simply can't afford it -- not even the champagne toast part . But I don't think it will be so bad, because our reception is in a separate room of a restaurant; people can go to the bar in the restaurant if they want a drink badly enough. We were catching a lot of flack about it too, but we just said, you know, it's our decision, we can't afford it. I'd rather have a non-alcoholic reception than to make people pay for their own drinks at a cash bar. Good luck!

cristin

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posted by Amanda

there are many options that you can have besides a cash bar. here are a few,

1.Only serve beer & wine i believe that's called a california bar

2.Serve wine and one kind of fancy drink like mahi-tai's

3. Have a dry wedding, pop, juice, coffee, tea, milk ect

4. Just have a champangine toast

5. have an open bar for a certian amount of time (like after dinner) which is still a faux-pas

6.have someone host an after party with all the liquor they can drink

it is hard to decide to have an open bar or not. a cash bar does seem tempting sometimes but it is unfair to the guests. but it is also unfair to you when the guests have one sip of a drink go dance, lose their drink, get another drink, and so on untill one person has orders 27 drinks but only has fully drunken 5. at my future brother in law's wedding that happened that their liquor bill came to 6 grand! 6 grand for 95 guests!? that's $63 a person!
check into where you are having the reception, some places have a pre paied bar price which is alot cheaper than paying after, that way the hall is in the loss for all thoes un drunken drinks.

side note i used to work in a reception hall and this guy i worked with when he cleared the tables and people had left un finished drinks, he would finish them. very wrong and he did get fired for it but it was so funny to see him get drunk in 1/2 and hour!

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posted by Sarah76

I'd like to add my tuppence about open bars, because I think it's an interesting cultural difference. I'm from the UK, and over here cash bars are very common. What usually happens (and what I'm doing at my wedding in August) is you serve a certain amount of free alcohol to the guests: in our case, a welcome drink, half a bottle of wine per person during the meal, and a glass of champagne each for the toasts. Then, from 9 pm-midnight, for the DJ/dancing part of the evening, guests can purchase alcohol from a cash bar. The rationale here is you are providing four drinks per person already (which I think is quite a lot); people tend to drink dangerous or wasteful amounts if it's an open bar; and we just can't afford it! So, probably what some North Americans reading this are thinking is, it's rude to have a cash bar, you should just not serve any alcohol after 9 pm. But in the UK the idea of a dry reception would be greeted with HORROR. I have told a couple of my UK friends that Americans sometimes have dry receptions and they just can't believe it. Everyone likes getting merry at weddings over here. Guess the Brits are just a nation of cheery drunks! So everyone over here would rather have the option of paying for their own additional drinks- if they wish to drink more- than not be able to have any more alcohol at all.

Just thought I'd chip in my thoughts- and this way, if any of you guys attend a UK wedding in the future, you won't be too offended! Personally I'm glad cash bars are acceptable here. One thing I've decided since I started planning my wedding a year ago (and reading postings on forums, and wediquette books) is that people get way too offended about too many things.

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posted by HeatherR

Sarah my thoughts echo yours- where I'm from a dry reception would be met with horror as well, people would rather have the ability to purchase their drinks rather than not drink at all. (I'm in NY.)

We provided an open bar all night because a lot of people had the expense of traveling, hotel, etc... (The hotel was right next door to the location so no one had to drive anywhere.)

I can tell you there were hungover on the way home the next day, but at least it didn't cost them anything to be that way.

Heather

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posted by syringa

I am a wedding coordinator in the northwestern U.S. Dry receptions are becoming increasingly common here and no one thinks anything about it. The bride and groom make the decision of what to serve and guests accept it. If a group of people want to have a drink together afterwards, they can go somewhere together to do so.

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posted by vegas bride

we have a couple of problem drinkers in the family and have decided to have a dry reception. most people we have told support the decision. We both have very strong feelings about this and luckily we are being supported.

By the way, a little background... last year my mother drank herself into the hospital and almost died due to her liquid diet. My parents told everyone it was the flu and consequently my parents still drink. i want my actions to show my 16 year old sis that drinking does not have to be a part of every function and meal.

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posted by 6amandaf6

Vegas Bride - good idea; its a battle to show teens now-a-days that responsible drinking can happen and we don't have to drink ourselves into oblivion every time.

Tiff - its not rude to have a dry reception. Like with Sarah76, we had a limited amount of $ to spend on alcohol, and after that people were expectd to buy their own. And we had a heap on the bar too, ($2000) so its not liek we skimped. But if people want to get absolutely trashed, I wasn't going to pay for it. We wanted peple to celebrate with us not provide a cheap night on the piss! And noone seemed to mind; in fact a lot of people bought their drinks the whole night anyway since they decided to drink spirits.
My thoughts; f you can't afford alcohol, don't. No point stretching your budget to accommodate other peoples opinions. I can't believe people have the nerve to complain about no alcohol. In my opinion, thats more rude than having a cash bar!!!!

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posted by HeatherR

Exactly Amanda- I agree, but I think that people would rather have the option of at least being able to purchase a drink rather than being told they can't drink at all. I agree with Syringa as well, if people really want to drink that badly, they can go somewhere after the reception to "celebrate" in their own way.

Heather

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posted by Marge129

I think I'll add my opinion now...

Every wedding reception that I've been to where there was NO alcohol only lasted about an hour. It's sad to say, but receptions are more fun when there is alcohol.

I think that cash bars are perfectly fine. We offered an open bar on beer and wine for 4 hours... cash bar for all liquor and anything after the 4 hours. No one seemed to have a problem with it at my reception, and we had no problems with people getting too drunk and there was NO underage drinking.

Margie
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posted by 6amandaf6

Oh yeah, Heather, I think its a good idea to give them the option too if you can. I personally think cash bars are okay. With weddings over here its not considered rude or tacky, people just assume the bride and groom couldnt afford more alcohol, no big deal. We were lucky we were able to budget some $ towards it, but we specifically chose a reception place where there was a bar with a selection of drinks as we weren't paying for spirits and knew some people would want them.

I can see receptions not lasting as long if there is no alcohol, and no bar to purchase it, but don't feel bad if you end up with a dry reception. Its your wedding!

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posted by TheaterDiva1

I disagree with the idea of a cash bar - I mean, would you invite someone into your home and charge them for drinks? If you want to limit alcohol and make your reception even more personal, serve a signature drink and "tweak" it to what you and your fiance like. For instance, my fiance and I constantly walk about tropical islands, so we could take a normally clear drink (such as a martini), add blue curaco to make it look like a turquoise ocean, and name it after a private joke the two of us share. Then we'd probably print cards on our computer with the recipe and incorporate them into the favors.

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posted by feb-bride

I agree - IMO, the idea of a cash bar is the same as asking guests to pay for drinks when they're invited to your home for dinner. I wouldn't do that, so there's no way I'd even entertain the notion of a cash bar.

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posted by catina

I know what you are all trying to say about being invited to someone's home and paying for your own drinks. However, whenever we invite people to our home and when we're invited to someone's home, they and we always without fail, bring a couple bottles of wine, some beer and once in awhile a liquer if it's a special occasion. No it's not expected, but that's how we do it. If someone ask if you want to go out to a bar and you say sure, you don't expect them to pay, do you? Dinner at someone's house, going out for the evening and a reception are totally different. My take on the reception is, you are asking someone to come and celebrate with you. They are bringing you a gift (supposedly), buying new outfits (probably), spending the night at a hotel (quite often). It can be a huge expense, which can add up to a lot more than dinner and a couple of drinks! In return you are offering them food and refreshments, to thank them for coming to share in their day. A very long day! It's entirely up to you, the host, to determine what those refreshments and food are to be. Alcholic or not. But it should be you supplying them, not the guests. You wouldn't ask them to pay for their meal, so why would you ask them to pay for their drinks?

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posted by SkyeCPHT

Gosh it really sounds like this open bar/cash bar/dry reception thing is a big debate. I understand everyone's opinions, but I do hope that guests can understand that sometimes alcohol can't be offered, because the bride and groom can't afford it. And I also hope that alcohol isn't that big a deal to people. I haven't been to a dry reception wedding (heck I haven't really been to a wedding as a guest -- I've always been working), but I'm sure if I found there was no alcohol, I'd be completely understanding and would never trash anyone if they can't afford it. I wouldn't be like "Oh, now what do I do? No alcohol? This is beat!" I would just understand that the bride and groom are doing what they can afford, and if that means I have to go without a drink for ONE NIGHT, then that's what it means. I would be happy to share their day with them, alcohol or not.

I'm not trashing anyone's opinions or anything, but I do think this isn't (and shouldn't be) about the guests... it's about what the B&G can afford. I'm not going to kill myself working overtime for the next two months, to scrounge up an extra couple thousand bucks for alcohol for my guests. I'm sorry. I'm stressed out enough as it is between work and school and planning a wedding from 3000 miles away. I just hope guests can understand that each wedding is unique and each situation is unique. Just my two cents...

cristin

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posted by catina

I'm with totally, Cristin. Including that it's a big debate! It doesn't matter if you supply alchol or not. Just don't make the guests pay for it. If you want to serve alcohol, then you should pay for it. Like you said, it's about what the Bride and Groom can afford. If you can't afford alcohol, then don't have it. It would be nice to have a sparkling wine for toasts, but again, if you can't afford it, don't worry about it!
Another point is, it also depends on where you're from. Different cultures have different traditions. I'm speaking strictly about where I'm from and what our circle of family and friends view as tradition.

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posted by SkyeCPHT

Thanks catina, I appreciate it. I was waiting for an onslaught of negative reactions to my post.

cristin

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posted by Sarah76

I agree with you, Skye (sorry if that isn't your name- I'm just looking at your username! ) One wedding coordinator at a hotel told my FH and I something which I think is useful to remember (we were stressing over how much alcohol to provide): : "You are not entertaining your guests, but inviting them to celebrate with you on your special day."

However- because I am genuinely curious about this, coming from the UK where traditions are different- why is it rude to give guests the option of purchasing alcohol if they so choose? I don't mean they're presented with a bill before being allowed a glass of champagne, but just having a discreet bar in one area (or a different room) of the reception venue. I agree that the B&G shouldn't have to worry about shelling out thousands of extra dollars for their guests to get wasted. BUT, isn't it also respecting your guests to provide them with the option of buying (additional) alcohol, if they want to drink it?

I have several friends and relatives from America coming over for our wedding (my mom's American, although we live in UK) and I can see I'm going to have to send them an explanatory email about the cash bar beforehand, just so they don't think we're completely rude!!

Wediquette eh....

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posted by HeatherR

Hi Sarah, I'm with you on this one. I don't necessarily believe that it's the entire U.S., in fact I know its not, lol.

We wanted to provide alcohol to our guests at no charge to them so we made sure that was factored into our budget. We saved money for over a year and a half to ensure we had enough to throw the reception WE wanted.

However, if we had been unable to do so, we would have made sure that guests had the option to purchase it themselves if they chose to do so. As I mentioned in a previous post, where I'm from, the guests want that option and expect it.

I don't think that cash bars are tacky because I know the expense of providing alcohol, so my advice to you is not to worry about your American guests. Do what you can afford. If you want a cash bar- do it.


Heather

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posted by conductorwife2b

we are having a western wedding and decided to have margraitias and a couple of kegs and soda for the kids weddings in 11 days so ill let u all know if i get any complaints

andrea

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posted by HeatherR

Andrea that sounds like a blast!

Congrats and good luck, it's coming up soon. Have fun!

Heather

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posted by SkyeCPHT

Yeah that does sound like lots of fun! If we were going to have our reception at a family member's house, we were going to do a tex-mex theme, with sangria, margaritas, and all kinds of mexican food (it's my specialty AND favorite). We decided to go a different route though -- but good luck, that sounds like fun!!

cristin
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